Jeff Layman <Je...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> Do you see similar information on your Android phone?
>
> Mainly not, though when Developer mode is activated I can see the
> Firebase info. As I have most things shut off, the only info Firebase
> has are for Google Play Services and also for Messages. Also, I think
> that Xiaomi locks things down and controls them even more than Google does.
I'm surprised that you have so little, as I've certainly turned off
everything that I could find and still there's stuff in Firebase.
For others lurking, you have to do this to see what we're seeing:
1. Turn on Developer options
2. Then go to Settings > Google > Firebase
Be prepared to be shocked.
>> If you have Developer options on, look at what Firebase reveals.
>> Settings > Google -> Firebase -> Maps ->
>> <
https://i.postimg.cc/nhCCVxmB/mapsloctrack03.jpg> Every map search!
>
> Yep, see above concerning Firebase. What does SEND UPDATE-INDEX mean?
> Is that info sent to Google?
1. I have no idea what "send update index" does.
2. Worse... I see that some are _automatically_ sent!
Andy... do you have any idea where these Firebase updates are going?
>> This is a tough one to keep clean because you have to have the
>> "autoconnect turned off" in order to stay out of Google's DB.
>
> I have Wi-Fi turned off all the time, because my mobile data allowance
> is more than enough for my needs. As I need a mobile (cell) connection
> for phone calls anyway, it has to be on all the time. At least by
> turning unnecessary wi-fi off I'm not tracked by that.
Oh yes you are being tracked by Wi-Fi even when you have it off.
In multiple ways. From your home even. It's really complicated so it would
take too long to explain it to you here.
Suffice to summarize:
A. Turning off wi-fi (or bluetooth) does NOT stop Android
from _automatically_ uploading your Wi-Fi (or Bluetooth) location data.
B. Worse, even without an Android (or Apple) phone,
your Wi-Fi location data is constantly _automatically_ being uploaded
whether you know it or not.
You can do something about it. But you have to know about it first.
That's what I was alluding to when I said "this is a tough one".
> I can't match that, but here are a couple of screenshots from the
> programme I mentioned:
> <
https://ibb.co/QXkxSnP>
Yeah. That's the same as this screenshot, only put into a graph for you.
> Screenshot1 shows what the OS is reporting every time it talks to a tower.
Can you doublecheck that?
I did not see you give a screenshot of tower cells.
Just apps & wi-fi access points.
Yeah. That's the same as this screenshot, only put into a listing.
What we need is a way to show all the previous cell tower connections
that just digs up the log from which that screenshot above came from.
>> Settings > Google -> Firebase -> Google Play Services -> Mobile Application
>> If what's in that database doesn't scare you, nothing else will.
>
> Very scary! I notice in Firebase that there's a "System Tracing" which
> records "system activity for later analysis to improve performance". Do
> you see that in you options? I wonder what that does.
I don't see anything about "System Tracing" here...
Settings > Google -> Firebase ->
> I think we all knew what Google does with *our* private information, but
> it's interesting to see it demonstrated.
I learned from adding value to your information that the cell tower
connections are being saved, so I opened a separate thread on that.
*Firebase? Where is your Android cell tower connections log?*
<
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/iT4i40Ze5QY>
If anyone knows how to find the cell-tower connections db, let me know.
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